Princess Kali and Thrash continue their discussion about erotic humiliation play with some reflections of their own experiences. They are amused by the perception of many people who pity the “victims” of humiliation play, while those involved feel like the “luckiest guy here!” Princess Kali brings up the various ideas of playspaces, both in a crowd and one-on-one, and Thrash gives his opinion about the reasons they feel humiliating. He also brings up his idea of the “New Women Order” and his own motivation to submit. Both close by highlighting some possible triggers and areas to avoid when doing erotic humiliation play.